Posts by never a jw

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so confused!!

by whatisthis12 in

is it possible to keep a somewhat relationship with your family if they are witnesses and have a "worldly" girlfriend?

i just posted a post, and found this site to be very helpful.

sorry to repost but my other thread brought up some other questions.

How about you see the cult first hand. Do some preliminary research, propose to your boyfriend to accompany him, attend that convention. See with your own eyes how it works. Watch the manipulative soap operas they use to control the sheep through guilt trips at every turn. You may even like it, or maybe not.

If your boyfriend refuses to take you to the convention, then that could mean he is embarrassed by the religion or he actually is hiding that he is still mentally in. Either way, knowing all the facts about your "enemy" will help you deal with it in the best possible way. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Determine where you boyfriend is, with you or with them? Sorry to put it so harshly, but that's how cult members are. It's all black and white. We versus them. Either with Satan or with God. No gray areas.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

never a jw

Just for emphasis I have to repeat what's been said before.

Before you allow any hopes of a good lasting relationship, make sure that your boyfriend is in solid grounds. This means that he is 100%, absolutely and unquestionably out of the cult, physically and mentally. You and he must learn everything that is bad about this religion. There's mountains of information out there. Just type the word(s) and you will be overwhelmed.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

never a jw

Go very slow, you are stepping into cult territory. If you are an open minded person, you will be shocked how powerful and harmful cults can be. You will get plenty of warning and advice soon. Just take it very slow. No marriage, no pregnancies, no legal contracts yet.

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Marry only in the Lord

by Jules Saturn in

the second half of 1 corinthians 7:39 reads "...she is free to be married to whomever she wants, only in the lord.".

so we all know that scripture for being doctrine for witnesses when they select a marriage mate and how they are strictly encouraged to marry amongst themselves and look down upon or marked if they marry an outsider.

i have a friend who met a worldly man and when it came to light, her father gave her the option to end the relationship or to marry him, and she chose the latter.

never a jw

my wife has been there. A month before we married a speaker was called to give a speech especially for her, about marrying in the Lord. She was called during the speech a "stained" in the congregation.

Fast forward 23 years later. She is happily married, well provided for, house paid off, secured retirement, two exemplary children going to university, while most of her cousins who married in the lord around the same time are divorced with children switching between mom and dad, no studies beyond high school anywhere, living in rental housing.

I know I sound like I am bragging. But it's all true

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

never a jw

"It is entitled Letter from Watchtower Australia to All Bodies of Elders regarding Protecting Minors From Abuse"

If the Watchtower cared one iota about children over money, they would implement the same policies and send the same letter to all countries, not just Australia. But the Watchtower will do everything to protect money over everything else.

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

never a jw

"Credit where credit is due" Really?

Even if they get rid of the two witness rule, there's no credit there. They would do it under pressure, after a calculated analysis of losses and gains.

Giving credit for that talk is like giving credit to the serial killer for swerving his car to avoid hitting a dog on the road for fear of damaging the bumper of his own car. That's the purpose of the Watchtower, save face to minimize financial losses. No sense of justice or care for anything else.

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What should i do

by Akid48 in

i have my meeting tomorrow and i dont know if i should act like im having a good time or not.. from akid48 .

read my last post i made to know whats going on in my life.

never a jw

Make friends at school. Participate in clubs, sports. Be a straight A student. Show great interest in healthy non-JW activities. This can be both, your cover and your way out. JW's will be disappointed at you, but not enough to shun you. Also, these tactics will prepare you for the next stage of your life when you are out of the JW control. And lastly, it will be a lot more fun. Besides, not all JW's discourage secular learning. My own JW brother has pushed his own children to pursue higher education so they can be self sufficient as adults.

Be a bit rebellious, be a spiritually weak JW, but a great human. JW's are not that stupid. They just feel forced to go along with the leadership and feel obligated to repeat the religious dogma spewed at conventions and kingdom halls..

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

never a jw

Hey, I just remember that I was about your age when I said good bye to my Catholic faith. For me that was not a problem. I just made the decision. Sure my mom was disappointed, but she was understanding of the fact that I had to make my own choices, even at that age. I was very lucky for having that kind of mom. You are in a much tougher position, but you sound like the kind of person that can handle it quite well.

I live in L.A. just in case you need some help other than advice.

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

never a jw

Just to give you a hint at how bad this is, go to the library and get the book 1984 by George Orwell. It's not anti JW's per se, but it's the best book to describe totalitarian governments, high mind control groups and cults. The reason I suggest the book is because you will run into these type of groups time and again. JW's are not the only one, they just happen to be one of the worst ones among the big ones. The book is rather short and easy to read. And it won't get you in trouble. Usually is read and analyzed in high schools in the U.S. Get an early peek. You will do very well in life if you steer away from these groups.

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I need some help

by Akid48 in

well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

never a jw

Whatever you do, DO NOT, Do NOT get baptized. It's a very serious decision with enormous repercussions. In the case of JW's is far more serious than deciding to marry someone. At least you can put an end to marriage with divorce, and if there's no children you move on. But you can't divorce the JW's without paying a huge price that in many cases chases you to the tomb.

I liked JW's for 20 some years until I did my research (I am married to a JW). I still love the brothers and sisters, but my opinion is entirely the opposite when I think of the religion and its leaders. I absolutely hate those despicable people.

My son was exactly your age when I did my research. I immediately pulled him out cold turkey after few days of research. He is happy now looking at the future as an open universe of choices. Hadn't I pulled him out, he would have had one choice only: be a drone and a slave of the Watchtower for a lifetime.

Pretend, stall, lie. Do anything, but never acquiesce to baptism pressures.